Saturday, August 4, 2007

Storing Toscano Cigars

tolerance or indifference? What most people do not go to hell by Satan and his friend Kiko

Beloved, believe not just apartentar
false tolerance and elegant, especially in matters as serious as eternal life (salvation or damnation). Anyone doubting the source of my opinions, you can refer to the Nicene Creed Constantine and the Catholic patristic abundant. If you are not Catholic, not a Christian, and if you are a fan of Kiko, not a Catholic. Is that the Holy See has been tolerant of their mistakes and those of his followers, but it is also true that tolerance slowly coming to an end. Notifications succeed, establish that the Bishops horrified terrible string of errors that even the Protestant fear defend the doctrines of these "secular." I invite you to know a good analysis of this shadowy group, which has known so well to hide their true intentions ...

Sources in Sacred Scripture:

will come a time when men no longer endure sound doctrine, but seek a multitude of teachers according to their wishes. Developments and will be eager to depart from the truth to turn to pure storytelling. (2 Tim 4:3-4)

There were false prophets among the people of Israel, and so there will be false teachers among you who will introduce new harmful, for denying the Master who saved them, will attract an early doom. Many, however, imitate their vices, and their guilt will be maligned the Way of Truth. Driven by the love of money, will exploit you with deceptive words. But since he began his condemnation and not ruin the sleep lost. (2 Peter 2:1-3)

My children, these are the last days, and were told they would to get the anti-Christ, in fact, many antichrists have come, so we know these are the latest times (note: the last time refer to the period after the coming of Christ, does not mean that the world will down). They went out from us, but were not really ours. Had they been of us would have stayed with us. Were leaving, we saw clearly that among us there were all the nuestros.Pero you have this coming of the Holy Sacrament, so that everyone has the true wisdom. I wrote, not because they lack knowledge of the truth, but because they already know, and lies have nothing in common with The Truth. And who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist who denies both the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son, also denies the Father, and who acknowledges the Son, also recognizes the Padre.Que stay in you what they heard from the beginning. If you stay in what you heard from the beginning, you also remain in the Son and the Father. And this is the promise that he himself promised: Life Eterna.Les write this thinking of those who try to desviarlos.En you, however, remains the anointing they received from Jesus Christ, and do not need someone to enseñe.Pues this anointing which he is taught all things, and he speaks the truth and mentira.Permanezcan not in it, keeping what they have learned. And now, little children remain there, so we have confidence when it appears in his glory and not feel ashamed before him when venga.Ustedes know he is right, and then recognize those who work for justice, it is born of God. (1 John 2:18-29)

Beloved, believe not all those who say they inspired. Test the spirits to see whether they come from God, because many false prophets roam the world. Who acknowledges that Jesus Christ became man speaks for God. In this accord to God inspires. But if someone does not acknowledge Jesus, that does not speak for God, but speaks as the Antichrist. I was told that the Antichrist will come, but already in the mundo.Ustedes, little children, are from God, and already have the victory over the liars, because that is in you is more powerful than the love of this world. They are the world and inspired the world and the world listen. We are of God and listen to us who know God, but those who are not of God, do not ignore us. So recognize the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of error. (1 John 4:1-6)


detailed study of the blasphemies and heresies of Kiko & Co.


heresies of the Neocatechumenal
Zoffoli
Father Enrico

Many Catholics see this movement in a legitimate way to serve God and the Church, to meet a religious sentiment. But what are the true doctrines of the Movement Neocatechumenal? Fr Zoffoli, Italian theologian Passionist studied for several years, the official records of the road and presented their findings to several bishops, cardinals and even the Pope, and they answer "silence, mistrust and hostility." We publish here the doctrinal part of his book "Catechesis neocatechumenal and orthodoxy of the Pope", which we hope will clarify a lot of Catholics
reference to the neo-catechumenate Way, the term 'heresy' can bring a smile to some and outrage others, for many, the Church will judge me too alarmist and unforgivably offensive. But unfortunately, this corresponds to a reality that I submit to the reflection of all, calling particular attention to the pastors, bishops and especially to the Pope. ORDER

SACRED PRIESTHOOD, HIERARCHY.

a) The true Church of Jesus Christ would be only the first three centuries, after which, of Constantine onwards, "institutionalized, would have been corrupted, until after 1600 years would come back to Vatican II. Therefore, for a long time, Jesus would not have met their promise to remain with his Church always, until the end of time, and therefore assist with the powers of darkness (Matthew 28.20, 16.18).
b) It follows that twenty ecumenical councils from Nicaea (325) to Vatican I (1870), would not have taught anything definitely true and indisputable, the glorious multitude of all the Fathers of the Church since the early fourth century onwards, followed by the greatest theologians of the Middle Ages and the many saints are trained in their school would not be worthy of study and admiration for having been recognized and approved by the Church's Magisterium a languid, corrupt, unfaithful to the message of Founder. His betrayal would be given by history, spirit, dogmatic and reforms promoted by the Council of Trent.
c) The Church was founded by Jesus Christ as his one flock: "The mission of the Church is not making everyone come to be part of it legally ...". She would not be so "the only hope of salvation that all should reach for salvation." You can not assign a legal structure as a necessary component of its nature: its nature would essentially charismatic.
d) All of this is logical, as it supports: 1. The "sacrifice" is a remnant of pagan worship, "In the Eucharist there is no offering," The Mass is not a "sacrifice" .2. In the Church there is an essentially ministerial priesthood common than all the baptized, then it makes no sense the sacred Order which gives, distinguishing laicado.3 clergy. But if there is no hierarchy, no one in the Church possesses and may exercise the power of government triple, sanctifying and teaching, so it there is neither superior nor subjects: equality would be universal and complete, because it is essentially democratic society such as civil, in which the people are sovereign. Then: * if the Church there is no power of jurisdiction, his government is illegitimate, laws are not mandatory, and its sanctions are unjustified in the Church ...,* if there is no divine power of sanctification, vain are all acts of worship, without any effective functions of the priesthood, the sacraments useless, and finally no its role in civil society in the Church ...;* if there is no power of Teachers (especially infallible), is completely arbitrary definition of an absolutely certain and irrevocable truths of faith and moral living standards. So what is taught there is only opinion, and always controversial and accordingly: - Christianity would not be a divinely inspired religion - would be among the other religions, more or less worthy of respect, nothing more, - Unjustified would be the rigor with which the Church defined and rejected as heretical all the doctrines incompatible with their faith ..., alleging and claiming a dignity and a mission higher than those of civil society ...
e) These are the consequences arising from the rejection of Holy Orders, Ministerial Priesthood, the Sacrifice. Now, denied Holy Orders, the rejection of the hierarchical structure of the Church includes deacons, priests, bishops, and especially the Pope, reduced to its simplest common condition "citizens" without any authority, place or privilege ... and intruders guilty for having attempted, for millennia, faith and respect that they deserved, the laity have every reason to rebel against the Church ...
f) In summary, the leaders of the neo-catechumenate road several times a year they organize pilgrimages to the tomb of St. Peter, as well: - honor the Apostle to the first of the Popes in the Early Church, an idea dear to the Protestant Church disappeared with the "Peace of Constantine" and "do not know how-raised with the Second Vatican Council - refuse to worship him as the Vicar of Christ, or the" Bishop of Bishops "who has the fullness of Ministerial Priesthood .- After the leaders of the NC (do not say "the faithful Neocatechumenals" ignorant and in good faith) recognized in John Paul II not to Supreme Pontiff, head of the Catholic Church visible, but an eminent personality of the civil world, human power of high prestige, to whom claiming to be sent, representatives, predecessors, favorite sons, as the pope conferred on him the same doctrine of them, because they are fully authorized to speak with authority itself and then do not miss anything and even sentenced to death the papacy and the Magisterium.
is precisely the destruction of the hierarchical Church, as a truly diabolical plan promoted by Freemasonry for centuries, determined to destabilize the positive Christianity as divinely inspired.

GOD AND MAN.

a) The God of Kiko and Carmen is not the biblical God, the tradition of the Fathers and the Magisterium, who is leading this prayer: "God, to whom the guilt and penance appease offended ...". A former Rovigo catechumenal confirmed to me that: its catechist explained that he is "proud" who claims to have offended God by sinning.
wrong is rude. Neo-catechumenate school did not yet understand that God-Acto Pure Felicísimo, Quiet, can be really offended by denial, by default, by the outrage or indifference ... the creature who, with his attitude, failure in duty to recognize the absolute dominion of God and his total dependence on The sinner mob him the objective order of truth and justice, as attempts to evade his presumption God (here is the offense against God), it really only hurts himself ...
b) Kikiania Theodicy, denying sin as an offense against God, falls into the trap of the old deism that separates and rejects any connection between God and man and between man and God. It is a transcendent God not only distant but also leaving the man free, you consent to live as if he did not exist.
c) If the man does not sin offends God, He also contracts with the duty of reparation ... this is sufficient to preclude the need for a sin offering. But there are still más.d) The man-as-neocatechumenal doctrine is constrained to sin, or can not stop doing evil and its nature is so damaged that it allows you to do good, so it is useless to any of effort made to correct ...
e) The conversion consists only of the public-recognition-also for the sins committed and trust in the saving power of the risen Christ ..., not in spite of having offended God, with purpose of amendment, using the best means to achieve self-purification.
f) It is not a grace sufficient to stimulate the conversion, and aims at regenerating the sinner, making reborn to transform it into a true adopted son of God to take well to intimacy with Him, that is a prelude to eternal life.
g) From there it follows that holiness is not possible, which is incomprehensible cult of the saints and Mary. JESUS \u200b\u200b



a) Jesus did not operate the Redemption. The Second Vatican Council renewed theology to the point that "there has talked more of redemption ..." But to be this really should take into account the following: 1. The man had no need of redemption, having been unable to sin (because, as taught by Kiko, "constrained to sin, sin is not is a free action), 2 º. Christ had nothing to atone for their sacrifice, precisely because man did not offend God, which can not therefore require any repairs.
b) He redeemed man, not eliminating the consequences of sin, as offensive to God and therefore deserve reconciled with the grace of repentance ..., but only released from death by virtue of his Resurrection, as if the only real evil was the voluntary death and not the rejection of his love.
c) Jesus, dying, would not have offered as a victim for the sins of the world, to satisfy the justice of God and redeem us from all evils of the present and future life.
d) The Catechism neocatechumenal ignores the infinite merit of his bloody offering as a supreme act of love the Father and brothers.
e) The salvation is attributed to the Resurrection of Christ, not His Passion and Death, which, according to all sources of Revelation and the unanimous tradition of the Magisterium, is the only meritorious cause of his own resurrection and of our spiritual and eternal.
f) "Jesus Christ is not made any (...); ideal of life did not come to give us an example and teach us to obey the law." If this were the teaching Church would have no "model" of Christian life which propose to the faithful. Not differ from their moral all other designed by man: agnostic, relativist, contradictory. And finally, not being able to propose the imitation of Christ, he shows the only "way" that leads to salvation and holiness, which will be recognized by the Father to share his happiness. THE EUCHARIST



a) denying the sacrifice of the Cross Kiko refuses to recognize also that of the altar, the Eucharistic Sacrifice, so that criticizes those who see in the Mass "Someone who sacrifices, that is Christ." In fact, teaches that "in the Eucharist there is no gift."
b) The Mass would be "the sacrament of Jesus' death to his resurrection ... "therefore," a proclamation, an announcement of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. "
c) Following the Mass Luther Kiko considered only as a "sacrifice of praise, a perfect joy of communication with God through the Lord's Passover." By contrast the Popes maintaining traces of the great Catholic tradition, maintain that "the sacrifice offered in the Eucharist is not (...) a simple sacrifice of praise is an atoning sacrifice or" mercy ", as stated by the Council Trento (DS. 1753), since in this renewed self-sacrifice of the Cross on which Christ He atoned for all and received the forgiveness of sins of humanity "(General Audience, 15.5.1983).

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a) rejecting the eucharistic sacrifice Kiko does not accept the miracle of the transusbstanciación, which primarily affects ...
b) Then there is a genuine, real and substantial presence of Christ for the transformation of bread and wine after the consecration. "The Catholic Church becomes obsessive about the real presence." "The important thing is Kiko stresses in the presence of Jesus Christ." "If Jesus had wanted the Eucharist to stay there, they would have done this on a rock, what would not be bad. "
c) that "we (the Neocatechumenals) closer to many Protestants that Catholics ...", or some, of all true faithful to the Magisterium ...

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a) not recognized as a "sacrifice" the Mass is reduced to a fraternal banquet, which requires only a table and not an altar. The bread and wine remain substantially unchanged, and changed into a mere symbol of the salvific presence and influence of the risen Christ, which is a living reality that is the Easter and drag to the Church ", its presence is a car fire that comes to creep towards the glory. "
b) Rejecting the "ministerial priesthood" is "the entire Church that proclaims the Eucharist, that is, that celebrates the feast. "There can be no Eucharist without assembly. The entire assembly is celebrating the feast of the Eucharist, because the Eucharist is the exaltation of the human assembly in communion ...". "It is in this assembly from which springs the Eucharist ..".
c) Denied transubstantiation, observe the following:
1 º. The fragments of "consecrated bread do not contain Christ, and especially after the eucharistic meal, and not" symbolize "his presence. The same falling off the table, should not worry anyone, because "it gives importance to the crumbs and stuff like that."
2 º. Denied the Real Presence Eucharistic worship is meaningless. Therefore Kiko lamented that "transform the Eucharist in the tabernacle of the divine prisoner ...".
3 º. Not tolerate "exposures", "processions", "worship", "genuflecting", "Eucharistic devotions. D) rejects the" repair "for the reason stated above, and also condemns the" sacrifice "compensation is excluded, on especially if it is connected with the cult of the Sacred Heart.
e) Kiko is convinced that the ecumenism promoted by Vatican II went to the church to remove the differences, regarding the Eucharistic mystery, separate the Catholic Church of the Protestant sects: "Together we will sit on the cornerstone, on the rock in which there are no divisions ... "

SACRAMENTS AND CHRISTIAN LIFE

neocatechumenal Catechesis, rejecting the ministerial priesthood, excludes all the sacraments not only holy orders but also the Eucharist and Penance, identified it with Baptism, against the Magisterium and anathema of the Council of Trent (DS. 1702). The purpose of penance is appropriate reflect upon the following theological positions of Kiko and Carmen:
a) "The early church did not have the confession (...) as we have." "The early church has no explicit expression of the sacrament of penance than baptism ...".
b) "Conversion is not a regret of the past ..." Indeed, if sin is not possible (as demonstrated above), neither is repentance. The conversion would not be a fact, voluntary personal correspondence of individual stimuli of grace, because his "core value and (...) is the ecclesial community", where "the Church that communicates and leads to conversion. " In short, sin would have "a social dimension, never individual."
c) "The important thing is not absolution." This is also logical, if no priest validly "ordained" as one minister of penance and forgiveness of God. In fact, "the value of ritual is not in the obsolución, since we are already forgiven in Christ." And more specifically: "Forgiveness" in the early Church, was not an acquittal but a reconciliation with the community, by the sign of readmission to the assembly in a liturgical church. " This is understandable if you think that the "offended" is not God, but, as assumed, the community, thus the only one who can forgive and absolver.d) A Kiko makes it "almost laugh to think that attrition is necessary only if you go to confession and contrition, if you do not confess ... "is a clear perversion on the doctrine of Trent (1677-8 DS., and can. 5, ibid. 1705).
e) Contrary to the history of the origins and catechesis of the Fathers, it says it is not before the sixth century when "begins to be necessary to say sins." This is false.
f) accuses the Council of Trent taught that venial sins also (Kiko defined as "nonsense") are sufficient matter of confession, of having generalized "form of private confession, medicinal and devotion" by proposing "the confession as a means of personal sanctification ...".
g) is attributed to the Franciscans and Dominicans, the guilt of having spread "all over private confession as a devotion ...". Kiko, therefore, not tolerate confession "for personal holiness ..." San Carlos Borromeo is convicted of having "confessionals (...), everywhere with details even on the grid", so "Luther said many things which had their basis ...".
h) In addition, the Council of Trent "everything is stuck", it represents a reversal in the life of the Church, as it-as you want Kiko "moving toward social and community visions of sin", even knowing that Vatican II and the popes who followed him remain steadfastly faithful to the doctrine of always regarding the sacrament of penance (cf. Cod Can law., 959-991).

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a) The life of the Neocatechumenals not be called "Christian" because it is not inspired by Christ, as the supreme model ignored them, that their true believers will always feel a duty to imitate.
b) The "Way neocatechumenal "not a true road by the following: 1. Being deprived of a starting point, which can not be other than the conversion, that is, repentance of sins committed, the purpose of amendment and do violence to himself in the fight against all inclinations pecaminosas.2 º. Being devoid of a point of arrival or ultimate goal to achieve, which is the sanctity of the home state. According to Kiko, "the man can do good" is "deeply retarded. It is carnal, "was the slave of evil." "It can only steal, fight, jealous, envy, etc. You can not do otherwise. And not to blame for that ... "" No come on speeches or anything to say, "Sacrifice, Quereo well, love!". And if any do, it becomes the biggest Pharisee ... "Just as Luther said:" Be satisfied with who you are, Angel failed, aborted baby. Your task is to do wrong, because your being is evil !"... Then, "the Way" from nothing and tend to nothing.
c) This is so true that all efforts are useless if the man tries to avoid sin: "Man sins because he can not do anything, because he is a slave of sin." On the other hand: "Let no one be fooled, who sins is the devil. Because if someone sins, it is because the devil is in it ...".
d) is pessimistic conception of human values, if the life, work, family are regarded as "idols."
e) Jesus was sent to parents and relatives hate, would not be limited to prevent them prefiriésemos Him A deeper exegesis, as Kiko says that the word is "hate" that the other translations are not accurate. This is the translation of the Bible Jerusalem ... "Which, however, says otherwise:" Hebraism. Jesus does not require hate, but indifference full and immediate ... "(Luke, 14, 26).
f) social ethics considers Neocatechumenals compulsory for all, according to the gospel played by Kiko "communion of goods." "We can not deceive. I did not invent the catechesis on the property. I read everything that the Gospel says about wealth: Do not tell that to the religious sisters or ...". g) On the issue of evangelical poverty is complicated: You have to sell their own goods only "catechumen", still not a Christian (though we know he is "baptized"!), "The Lord invites you. What do you have to do at this time? What you are saying to you. I'll say, sell your goods ... "However, such sales are only bound catechumens who are not yet Christians, having received the baptism ... "These words are not for Christians, are addressed to catechumens, this is written for catechumens ...". Instead
"... a true Christian, a person transformed by Jesus Christ may have money, no question, therefore, to be poor, we have to be robbed: Christianity is not a stoicism ..." says Kiko
"Someone might think (...) that what Jesus wants us to be poor, which afflict us. This is in a context of natural religion (1). In all religions, poverty is a sign of purity. And a sign of wealth impurity. This is a natural feeling that we all have ... "
" In the Middle Ages, when Christianity is at the top of natural religion, if St. Francis of Assisi is not presented with a torn sackcloth, and his father listening. If Jesus had lived at the time of San Francisco, would have thrown tomatoes, because he was a glutton and a drinker, always surrounded by libertines, because not fast, lived lavishly, not sacrificed because ... "
" Within the religious natural in this world, it is necessary to achieve the torment of the hereafter. But this is not Christianity. Jesus does not tell you to sell your goods, sacrificing yourself in life, reach the sky ...".
"This is not to be poor ...". The Lord wants us to be free, who profit from the money, we are kings of the world ... "The vocabulary of the Gospel and elsewhere ignores language sentence of this genre. Kiko, who confesses to "Christian", or be baptized, should also be read S. Paul: "By baptism we are therefore buried with Him in death ..." (Rom. 6, 4); "You are dead, and your life is hidden with Christ in God Mortified your (...) Member grounds "(Col 3, 3.5). In fact, "They that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts "(Gal. 5, 24). Unfortunately Kiko insists
- "Christian spirituality is not stoic and ragged type"
- "Jesus did not want to live under a bridge in the open. Because God is love. And he has a friend named Zacchaeus, which has a special home. And Jesus is going to spend a season in Bethany with his disciples ...", to which he says: "Eat, drink and all they can ...".- aprovéchense" Christianity is a wedding ceremony. Jesus does not want people to be sacrificed, even if there was a very religious time, when we had a very masochistic Christianity, sacrifice ...",
h) A cartoon and parody of evangelical poverty increases Kiko condemnation of asceticism in general, and, consequently, of all the saints who practiced:
- "The meaning of the Cross" is not "the feeling of natural piety, as they believe almost all Christians. Life is not a hard test crosses we must bear in order to see if after we won the sky. "You have to suffer!" said the religious person as Christ ascended the Cross, God sends me cross so I also suffer. Who says it understands nothing of Christianity. This is masochism, stoicism, not Christianity ...".
- "Poor Jesus think of heaven: with all that I have suffered for these probecitos not suffer and they're happy! Look, go through life suffering ... "
So I do not know what benefits they brought the Blood of Christ. Jesus Christ gave his blood, by the Cross for us to have eternal life "but to have this eternal life it seems that his blood did not get much, as people continue disciplining, tormenting, conforming. But if a drop of the Blood of Christ is worth more than all the sins of humanity ...".
"If The (...) just took upon himself our sins, our sins so that we could live a free life ..." "Jesus Christ suffered for so long we had to suffer. " It could not be more irreverent and contrary to the Gospel this disfigurement (corruption) of the dogma of the Redemption !....
i) is logical hedonistic interpretation of the Christian life. We must be grateful to the crucified because with his death, we avoided the suffering of life. In the Church the remains only as a memory that encourages us to enjoy and not suffer.
is for this reason that the cult should be developed in a climate of celebration and joy, inspired by the event of the Resurrection, in the ultimate triumph of life.
"The priest in Christianity does not exist, no temples, no altars. So the only altar in the world, among all religions, which has tablecloths is a Christian, because it is not an altar but a table (...). And one can not altar cloths, is to make sacrifices of goats and cows ... "
j) Unfortunately neocatechumenal theology leaves in the background the purpose of the Passion and Death of Christ. If, as claimed, "He was not offered as a victim for the sins of the world, sacrificing on the Cross, why did he die?. How can we explain the Resurrection if was due to the infinite merit of his obedience to the Father in Christ wanted, and satisfied His justice, redeem men, revealing all his mercy? ...

Eschatology

What is the epilogue in the history of mankind? The answer is intuitive:
a) If because of his sin, man does not respond as it should, being forced to sin, which is dominated by the devil, if just because all this is not free to act as desirable, it would also be unfair to punish him. In fact, "Christianity says that we are all already tried and that the trial of all sin has been done on the Cross of Jesus Christ who forgave us all ...". For all nothing but "forgiveness and mercy ...". "God's verdict (also for thieves, murderers, prostitutes ...) is none other than Paradise ..." b) On the other hand, every one, without freedom and responsibility - as impersonal! - Is absorbed and lost in the risen Christ: "I am the Christ himself, and Christ has risen, I have raised ...". "In The truly can be recreated by retrieving the image of God, God tornándote son of God, having the nature of God ...".
c) Therefore, no hell and no purgatory. But the Catholic faith is very different!
These are the basic lines of the Neocatechumenal doctrine, which, unfortunately. -As well as being fully compatible with Christian revelation, "does not follow any systematic order in the texts of the catechism of Kiko-Carmen, its content is obscure, ambiguous, fragmented and contradictory. Only a most patient and analytical investigation as possible to conceive an idea it really objective. Guests often
a meeting to clarify, refine and justify their claims, the leaders of the Neocatechumenal prefer silence. Of course, demand the secret to all initiates. But nobody can accuse me of distorting the thinking of Kiko, Carmen. My findings were confirmed by several hundreds of letters from ex-Neocatechumenals and so many phone conversations and personal with all regions of Italy and several foreign nations. FRUIT OF THE ROAD

NEOCATECHUMENAL Be

fully fund the discovery of the Path heretical causes much confusion. Some objections presented as the excellent results obtained by him ... while others think that this is only speculative theological positions and abstract, so harmless. What matters, is repeated, is the life, ideas, and also the good nature of the tree is known by the fruits it produces. Just the beginning remembered by all.
This is an application of the principle of causality provided fully valid only in the processes of the physical world in which good nature and the effect depends on a decisive revelation "of the cause, if it is not prevented by external actors .... If, however, the cause affects the individual, it can happen that, being free, you subtract its influence, so that the effect would be withdrawn. Thus it happens that a good cause can produce ill effects, which obviously did not reveal the nature of the case.
Think of the goodness of God and the wickedness of some men ...; in excellent degenerate parents who have children ..., in brilliant teachers and disciples complacent, short of intelligence and so on.
And it can happen to good tree produces bad fruit, like a bad tree produce good fruit even accidentally, when he associates the influence of a good tree. Informed
I can prove that the Neocatechumenal in itself is not comparable to the "good tree." In fact, having been founded on error, because its premises contrary to the data of Christian revelation on fundamental points, the Neocatechumenal by itself can not produce any positive results.
However this can produce good results depending on outside influences to it, explaining how some, even many Neocatechumenals may be blameless. Indeed should the orthodoxy of the ideas and the exemplary life to the education received in the family, school, parish, and in general to the teaching of the Magisterium, the pope's repeated urgings, participation in the Catholic liturgy, celebrated according to the guidelines of the Church hierarchy, not the "new" dogmatic, moral and liturgical Way: what is truly good, how good he can be in it does not belong, and that comes from Catholic tradition, not the "creativity" of his inspiring leadership. His "new", accepted and fully lived, can only lead to the apostasy of Christianity, as is proposed by the Catholic Church.
Neocatechumenals publications boast of the huge expansion of road, the most remarkable number of "brothers", dioceses and parishes they operate as well as religious and priestly vocations, seminaries encountered everywhere. Outsider, not otherwise reported, it could only rejoice at this. But need to know everything.

NUMBER OF "BROTHERS"

say they are really very many but I think anyone from outside have made it possible to view statistics for the road. The leaders want to impress public opinion by organizing meetings, pilgrimages, clamorous demonstrations ...
If numerous are those who follow the Path, so are those who leave and sometimes come to curse ... Nobody has ever taken the matter but I frame of a rich collection of letters, confessions that are designed to form a large volume will be published soon, with whom I can give pause to many people.


CONVERSIONS
A real conversion happens when you move from error to truth, a life of sin to repentance that leads to reconciliation with God in Christ and a total change of life, tending to holiness in their own state .
Unfortunately, as to the truth, "the Way" by itself (ie, considering the catechesis neocatechumenal), not only does not teach, but denies, distorts and despises opposing the tenets of the Catholic Church heresies Kiko and Carmen ... As a moral conversion, catechesis Neocatechumenals are not capable of doing or promoting: a) if the man is overwhelmingly dominated by the Evil One can not do any good, or collaborate with stimuli grace; b) the grace, as Kiko, no human creature regenerates making it a child of Diosc) if no one is forced to imitate Jesus, not be possible or at least supernatural life.
conversions are more thoroughly analyzed by far do not reflect the ideas and criteria of the road, but only the experiences of the countless sinners turned to the bosom of the Catholic Church. Testimonials
unsuspected made us know that, after years of road, in some communities are still neglected Neocatechumenals, frivolous, licentious in speech, they get angry and even blaspheme ... no shortage of defenders of abortion, divorce, love ... sow hatred , Créans unpleasant situations and to leave them tell lies of all sorts ...; not returned borrowed money ...; misbehave at the church until shortly before the Eucharistic celebration is smoked, is sung , no fights, insult ....
is unlikely that such environments can be born the "new man", while it is easier to happen emotional imbalances and deviations spiritual leading to embrace other sects, as has happened several times. Many Neocatechumenals were Jehovah's Witnesses, Protestants and even other catechists, after 18 years of road, they became atheists.
are many marriages destroyed by the stubbornness and obstinacy lost husbands or wives of catechists, that the justices do, unscrupulous ... "Only the Lord knows how many years of loneliness and despair I went: I was afraid to drive me crazy!" Said a lady ... "It tells me a father, a secret sect, for which reason a wife and mother was absent for several years separating of their own, of true community ...". "It is about a cult which aims to completely destroy the foundations of the family in order to ganarsei the submission of each individual (...) It is time for Christians to know that this sect destroy families ... ". There is a fact within the Neocatechumenal community, which surprises, puzzles and particularly shocked the true" converts "a fact that later they will reveal. It asks for money, always money ... Indeed, when the initiates "reaching a point of Camino should tithe, not knowing where you are supposed to stop, no one is accountable. In much of the alms given to the parishes and The host diocese, in order to increase support for hierarchy to them ... "So, generosity half interested.
The Neocatechumenals "should set a certain amount to cover the heavy expenses of 'management', for example, seminars, room hire, events, hotels, support for new mobile Luthers or mission, and that through continuous collections, tithes, restitution of property etc... "
In some obligation to sell the goods themselves, in some cases, caused real disasters, more than a person reduced to misery, went mad. The Neocatechumenals, generous among the "brothers" to the waste, and more with the ecclesiastical authorities in their favor, they are ruthless with their own families do not share their ideas. In the same way as in the oath Mason is committed to helping the brothers of the same lodge - so I read in a letter to the Neocatechumenals also have an obligation to help each other in the community, and eventually in other communities while it is not necessary to help the movement who does not belong ...". On the comments.
"To us," she confesses a lady told us we sold what we had. Having nothing more than a little gold, sold and forced to hand over the sum achieved, some 600,000 Lit. On that night, only in a community, were collected in "the sack of filth" about 40 billion lire. I asked where that money would stop, and the catechist told me that I should not ask for any explanation. When I would clarify the matter, I countered that should convince me that he was devilish ...
It is estimated that many millions have been for 'agape', entertainment, travel, returns. A real waste of money and a real theft! The sale of goods is the worst deception for Neocatechumenals .... " "It is a scandal, therefore, the predation of fruit of many sacrifices made with the job! Now, who has authority to say, if you sell everything will be written in the Book of Life? What is holiness in poverty to leave their own children and to leave them as they are free people? And what does that go away, to mission lands, leaving their own parents or siblings physically disabled ?..."" The movement, as an archbishop, runs a river of money, millions of millions, obtained with the apology the renunciation of property. "
Another eminent figure of the Roman Curia confirmed it and told me it was in turn informed by other bishops ... But they dare not act because they fear to displease the Pope.
find It is not sporadic but a mindset, a system, a custom of those who fought only Neocatechumenals who remain faithful to the principles and practice of the Catholic world.
If it is objected, as happened several times that by engaging with the road can not be expected that the partners are all blameless ... it is easy to reply that, given the doctrinal premises of Kiko and Carmen, no one really is going to be : human nature is irremediably ruined, so any improvement effort is useless ...
So what Neocatechumenals conversions can talk, of which priests and bishops are happy?



itinerant catechists is made much noise about this, go abroad to spread the Gospel message to anyone who ignored or forgot. The holding of office is loud, reported by radio, television, newspapers and magazines. But even here the truth of the facts is another.
a) The itinerant catechists are not even the shadow of the Catholic missionaries who, after the Apostles, for centuries, continue traveling the world after abandoning all, that is, living alone, poor, exposed to all evil, ready to die because of faith, bound by vows to move anywhere and stay there forever ...
b) In contrast, itinerant catechists carry spouse, children, so they are largely supported by family affection ... They are assisted at all by the brothers, are free from economic concerns, more or less maintained as a tourist ... On the other hand, after a while can return home ...
c) There remains the problem of children. If they grow in the company of their parents must be left free to decide if they want a future different or even contrary to their parents.
Staying at home, and while still children, parents, catechists seriously missing the duty to aid, educate them, give them affection, care, defense ... Required nature, against the false Kiko fundamentalist exegesis by which to follow Christ must be hated their own families. The truth is that Jesus never commanded parents leave their children while they are in need of assistance, and that is why the missionary vocation which is subject to celibacy consecrated to God and the Church, involving the generous waiver marriage and all the joys of the family.
On 12 December 1994, the Pope met with the families Neocatechumenals itinerant, making the following observation: "It means that communities are committed not only individuals but also families, willing to face by mutual agreement, without neglecting his conjugal duties, with the difficulties and responsibilities that entails such a task ... "(OR 12-13/Dic/1994).
then the responsibility of these missionary expeditions lies entirely with the catechists, knowledgeable of the conditions of each person and each family. So it all depends on the interpretation given by Kiko the Gospel passage in which he said, sent hate their own families ...
So what may be the fate of people who are often deceived by intimidation and leaders of the Way? D) What is particularly concerned about the content of the preaching of men educated in the school of Kiko, Carmen. As real "missionaries" they should proclaim the Word of God as interpreted by the Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church, not as their teachers intended the alter, misrepresent and betray ...
e) Based on information incontestable a bishop, regarding the "itinerant catechists, says that" most of the bishops of the dioceses where the Neocatechumenals are not wanted, because their presence, despite the positive information made regarding them, is useless and it is counterproductive! But who knows what they believe the Pope? ". SEMINARS



This issue is much more seriously. If young people are educated according to the theology of Kiko, we have serious cause for concern.
ask: is preparing for ordination as a rite that rises to the dignity of the ministerial priesthood, essentially different from the common to all the baptized, inserted in the Catholic hierarchy ... or qualifies only as priests, or elders, without powers authorizing them to "consecrate", "absolve", "baptism", "anoint the sick," "bless", etc ... in the Name of the Person of Christ?
the seminarians, are you willing to submit to the authorities of the diocese, to be inserted into their structures, to promote and actively participate in their initiatives and to obey the rules of canon law?
Are you willing to devote themselves to God, vowing to integrate and perpetual chastity, according to the intentions of Christ who on the contrary and according to Kiko, sufriésemos did not want us, having already suffered and saving On any sacrifice at all? Unfortunately
fully believe that their mission is to reform the Church, founding another parallel to the Catholic Church.

CRISTIANAY LIFE RELIGIOUS CONSECRATION

Kiko gives evidence of having no clear ideas about the distinction between common life possible and necessary grace to the faithful and consecrated life, reserved for souls who aspire to a higher level of spiritual perfection, subject to effective and perpetual practice of the evangelical counsels, consecrated by vows.
However, the confusion of states explains the intransigent and sometimes ruthless severity with which the "catechists" claim to lead the Neocatechumenals, falling in great contradictions that give rise to wailing, fighting and more than justified defections. For example:
a) the emphasis on the sale of all goods, as if it were a necessary condition to be authentic Christians. But we know that even in the early Church of Jerusalem that sale was free ... If the council Jesus was then followed by the hermits, monks, religious, should not result in a duty for all the faithful, which can lead to holiness also retained ownership of great wealth ...
b) According to Kiko the sale of assets is obligatory only for the Neocatechumenals, but not for the "baptized" because they are "Christians" and can have everything, enjoy, "live a free life." Indeed the tenor of life "catechists" and some disciples is magnificent. A Kiko, who seems to be joking, we may ask what is in reality, he says, the thought of Jesus or the spirit of the Holy ... If poverty (with all its burden of resignation) is still worth or not, and if so whether it can impose on the religious, if the fruits of the Way, the glory that is so smug, they are by chance vocations contemplative life ...
c) Another inconsistency with respect to conjugal chastity is that exalts Neocatechumenal exultant paternity of a numerous offspring, but does not accept, and even strongly opposed to the doctrine of the Church according to which paternity must be responsible it declares lawful when there are serious reasons, the natural birth control, drawing on infertile women, which requires periodic abstinence (cf. Encyclical Humanum Vitae 16). But this rule does would be worthy of the Neocatechumenal, which are considered first-class faithful.
d) As to obedience, Neocatechumenals morale is even more inconsistent, causing tremendous imbalances and breaking families. In fact, the wife should follow more guidelines "catechist" that the husband and vice versa. I say the "catechist", not the "confessor" who can not exercise any spiritual direction ... The Neocatechumenal appear under their "catechist" it is a common religious respectivo.e his superior) way of holiness doctrine Kiko lends itself to a critical view more severe. We know she is in the perfection of love for God and neighbor. Then, universal love, understanding also those who are distant, strangers, enemies ... However Neocatechumenals behave differently because they are generous with those who share their ideas and expect us to accept or part of your community ... while excluding others, especially those who opposed them.
We are in a web of misunderstandings, oddities, contradictions. What "fruit" can be collected from a tree so sick?

MYTH OF THE PERSONALITY OF KIKO-CARMEN

This is another point in the road. It is the enormous power of the catechists, the naive bigotry communities NC, renunciation of personal property, the humiliations to which subject leaders to members of groups, this is an explanation of all the blind faith in the almost-human, charismatic power taxed to Kiko and Carmen . They are fascinated to priests and obispos.No am the first to think so. Our criticisms, according to Bishop Luis A. Luna Tobar, bishop of Cuenca (Ecuador) - refer above all to "worship" of the founders. "Kiko, the cult of his figure and that of Carmen, obtained as a result, within communities, a magic unacceptable ..." (quoted by Il Regno, 15/oct/1993, pg. 554). Magic
enhanced by collaboration "Catechists" who in the beginning of the Way seek to focus the will of the group with psychological and sociological techniques, so they cause the weakest enthusiasm and strong responses to the fanaticism and mystical exaltation, while in the distaste generated stronger, malaise and rebellion, which are smothered by the rigidity of the NC rules, based on silence and secrecy about everything that happens in the community.
"Testimony on the sins that have always accompanied the Neocatechumenal Way, disrupt and violate the consciences of the weak and vulnerable participants ..."
The excitement makes "during the liturgies (...) who has always confess publicly, loudly, saying for instance: I have masturbated all night, or have raped the daughter of my lover or have drugged me and then I have given to sexual pleasures, and so style. And this happens in the presence of children and adolescents, shocking and encouraging them harmful curiosities ...". Says a witness to this in such an event.
However, in such an atmosphere of excitement, everything is possible. Quoting the theologian R. Blázquez, the same witness writes: "The emphasis on the inability of human endeavor raises concerns in some ... It is also much clearer perception of freedom as the man who is chained. If, indeed, the freedom of man is as chains, and this is also very easy to copy the bad example! ". Are these the fruits of the Way?
"KNOWN ONLY WHO CAN JUDGE THE WAY? So
Neocatechumenals repeated when they know how to respond to critical comments made to them: "Vinde e vede!". To a naive
response may represent a difficulty more I have serious reasons to refute:
a) The direct and personal experience can be substituted, fully, "by careful study of the catechism contained in the" guidance "of Kiko and Carmen , mentioned above.
also detailed descriptions of ex-Neocatechumenal all categories and levels of education, free again, objectives and disappointed, are hundreds of testimonials ...
b) In addition, rituals and discourses that vary from community to community, and these are thousands scattered across all continents, would need to go around the world to learn all ...
c) Finally, the very severe secrecy law prohibits front of strangers, that would be my case and discuss what is said that "catechists" do not want to know but members of the community, or even at all, since the doctrine is taught gradually as stages of its "Way" ...
d) The invitation, "Vinde e vede" was addressed in other words until the solemn convention of Vienna, during which particularly unpleasant incidents were verified. For example: - "The bishops who wanted to intervene could not speak ...". Carmen particular one even said: "The Lord did not allow the movement enter and function in his diocese!" .- "A bishop who claimed to know the Movement, Carmen said that the Movement can only be known living it and accepting it!, who is out does not understand or can understand it! ".-" In that convention other bishops want to talk too, but could not because the floor taking only those who spoke favorably of the Road ".- An archbishop who was present and then told all, concludes, that arrogance is a cynicism in the history of the Church ! And that's not an isolated event because it is the result of conception they have of the "Church." Strange
neocatechumenal experience so unique and sublime, may be discussed only by those who lived it!

terrible start of the "path"

In the beginning there are a number of sacrilege and that from day one everyone should hear catechesis not only but also participate in the "Eucharist", considered by the Church Council as the source of all worship and Christian life "because it" is the whole spiritual good of the Church "," root and beginning from (...) of which must all education that is intended to form the mind of the community ", etc.. Kiko
allows everyone to receive communion: "There may come an atheist or any other person. During this time we never talked about sex, work ... or if you have a lover or if he steals, if he kills or stops killing ... Nothing! We ask only one thing: come to hear the Word of God once per week and celebrate the Eucharist. Each continues to act as you want ... "
Obviously he does not believe in the" real presence ", the result of transubstantiation, and believes that the Eucharist can be received even in mortal sin against the doctrine and the prohibition of the Council of Trent that Kiko hates (cf. DS 1642 and Can. 2, 1652, 1647).
What positive outcome can have a conversion Way started in sin and anchored for years in the desecration of the Eucharist? If in the early years Kiko does omit the recitation of the Creed, how can you dare to receive a sacrament that is the mystery of faith par excellence and is, especially in adults, not just the state of grace, but also a degree of intellectual and spiritual maturity ...? DARK ROAD



Another fruit of the tree bad NC road (at least according to elementary logic, not spins and swings Kiko's speeches), is the veiled rejection of the sources of revelation: Sacred Scripture and Tradition, as the Magisterium has always played and proposed to the faithful over the centuries.
a) The proof a priori is quite simple: deny the ministerial priesthood, Holy Orders refuses the hierarchy which is in turn provided with, among other powers, an infallible teaching, alone can ultimately and arguably interpreting the meaning of the "Word of God written and transmitted." More
Kiko theology denies the Sacred Order therefore also denied the ministerial priesthood, the hierarchy, the powers of the visible Church, among which the Magisterium, referring to personal inspiration interpretation of Scripture ... b) As to Holy Scripture speaks cleverly Kiko - and only once! - the interpretation of it gives the Church (cf. p. guidelines .... 238 ff.) But not afraid of saying "the Bible interprets itself through very ambiguous expression parallels ...", ..., and "The important thing is the experience of people ..." (p. scheme Orientaciones. ... 45). Unsustainable
So says the New Testament in its relation to the Old. After citing the list of the books he adds, "we finally have the New Testament, including the Gospels, Acts of the Apostles and the Apocalypse. This is not very important. In a special way I tell you, if you want it and if you want to say, no. " (Orient. p. 249). Therefore
the New Testament would be less important than the Old, yet remains true that it is preparing to that, being not the words of the prophets, but of the Incarnate Word himself (cf. Heb. 1-10s).
c) With respect to the Apostolic Tradition, enriched by the contributions of the Magisterium, ordinary and solemn, Kiko is attributed powers to interpret the Word of God is completely independent. They are very numerous
their exegesis who disagree with the Magisterium ... (Cf. G. Conti, Neocatecumenali to bivio, De Segno, 1994, pp. 1928-1955), almost total absence of the Fathers of the Church and theologians ..., does not mention the 20 ecumenical councils preceded the Second Vatican Council, or interventions dogmatic and moral nature of the Popes. Open rejected repeatedly and hard definitions and provisions of the Council of Trent.
however, reject the maternal guidance of the Church is to reject the Revelation, or walking in the dark. STRATEGY

SOSPECHOSADEL "SECRET"

Several times in his instructions to the catechists Kiko recommended not disclose to any stranger they have heard. In turn, "catechists" repeating the same prohibition to Neocatechumenals increase the terrible threat that violators will be punished with a 'curse' extended to the 3 rd or 4 th generation.
Yet Jesus called to proclaim his message even on the roofs ... St. Paul never hid anything to the heathen, preaching the deeper truths and by developing the most arduous duties ..., the apologists of the early centuries, the Fathers of the Church, theologians of all time etc, dared to publish his own writings and publish them without excluding any category of readers .
understand then as the Father Leone Poggi, caves, was able to write: "Why do Kiko do not have their preaching, publishing for public knowledge, knowingly, who is, what else preaches or what he wants eventually to their called revelations and Carmen? Why meetings are always at night and in small groups, usually without permission from the respective parish priests? Why those instructions reserved for catechists? "Why in his sermons never refers to the confession, communion and the life of grace, and only talks about the need for a new catechetical instruction and no other ? And why he must remain for many years to ten or more, and believes the old catechism as erroneous and false ... Christianity pretending to propose a hitherto unknown, at least since the beginning of the fourth century until Vatican II?
The explanation is intuitive: Kiko and Carmen fear the reactions of the Catholic world, especially of the faithful more experts in theology, biblical exegesis in patristic as in church history, heresy, Councils and Pontifical Magisterium ...
why the vast majority of Neocatechumenals consists of poor people, uneducated, almost illiterate in matters of religion.
confirms this, moreover, neglect and even contempt he has for theological learning, just as Luther thought ... Kiko, Carmen
fear in particular that the hierarchy discover the doctrinal background of his way ... which discredits the Church in public opinion that the order, which prevents them from carrying out the plan of founding a new church, demolishing the Catholic and Roman, which is exactly the Council of Trent they detested. Many suspect that
behind their people is the shadow of the masonry and countless other enemies of the faith. Not otherwise explain his "secret strategy". LAST CONSIDERATIONS



To provide a more rapid and linear almost always omitted, deliberately, the citation of sources found in the published volumes, with each passage of the "catechesis" of Kiko and Carmen is brought quotation marks with the precise indication of the pages.
This synthesis, based mainly on the examination of that catechesis is the most widely confirmed in the testimonies of some hundreds of letters, almost all ex-Neocatechumenals that repeating what I already knew, provided valuable details about the sad facts.
Knowing there is no error, however serious, does not contain an element of truth (cf. St. Thomas, Suma c.Gent. III-c 10), I am also sure that the doctrine and praxis of the Neocatechumenal contains a good thing but only that which, derived from the "womb of the Church" makes some good souls ... Therefore I am also convinced that the true good, deep, lasting can never be mixed with bad ... "Bonum ex integrates cause, malum ex quocumque defective" (cf. Summa Theologica, I-II, q. 18, a. 4-3). Not even the devil can conceive or pure evil will certainly be lost in the void, precisely because evil is the privation of good, if the deprivation is total absolute negation. Who
to learn to interrogate certain Neocatechumenals still on the road, you can often get very conflicting answers, because the communities the "catechists" do not usually say anything, also prefer to keep silent when the issue is the deep core of the doctrine of teachers, especially if the audience is still rooted in Catholic doctrine.
The "catechists" informed about my reaction always invested the terms of discourse, and even declared a heretic "Demonized" bad-mouthing me as they could.
being almost alone in support, with some publications, orthodoxy against the ideas of the founders of the road very powerful, I have also aware of my exposure risk. But the cause is worthy of this and even more.?

NOTE: (1) The alleged contrast between natural religion (or natural religion) and Christianity is one of the darkest and unsustainable Kiko's catechesis, which shows disregard to the meaning of terms. He and his disciples would be recalled, among other things, that nature is not opposed to grace, faith or science, or science philosophy, or philosophy to theology, or theology of revelation, or the Old Covenant to the New. Jesus did not come to abolish, but to refine, not to condemn but to redeem. As a verb, in which and for which it was done, He is the universal mediator that everything and everyone reconciled with the Father, the Supreme source of all values.

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